behind closed doors with house investigators? >> well, i hesitate to speak for her. she'll speak for herself. but the key point is this, that when president trump was elected i think the leaders of ukraine were hoping the u.s. focus pie the u.s. government was on corruption, but our policy remained the same. and ambassador yovanovitch was pushing them to make the right sorts of choices. and they wanted to get credit for reform when they weren't doing everything necessary so they resented her efforts. and the irony here is that the people who are being quoted for example mayor giuliani, former prosecutor general shulkin -- and so their criticism of her was their desire to depot after someone who criticized their ability to deal with corruption. >> you have a unique