also, i think you have people who are dissatisfied with the people running for a variety of reasons. and mike bloomberg has an opportunity -- >> by and large with the polling i've seen, democratic primary voters have said they're satisfied with the democratic field. >> i've seen that, as well, but i think there is another alternative that will be offered to them and that is mike blackburg. to me, again, it's looking at the track record of an individual, how that individual has benefited society and mike bloomberg to me checks off those boxes. >> dennis, you said you've known him for 20 years. do you think he is really going to get in? do you think this is -- that after filing in alabama and making these moves, that he could still pullback or do you think he's all in and it hasn't been -- the mechanics haven't been put in place yet? >> i think the mechanics are