wanted to say about a year ago. she left the u.n. job. you know, she's clearly someone with ambition. she writes about how ambition can be a -- be seen as a dirty word when it's applied to women, but she is an ambitious person. i think it is pretty clear she is positioning herself to run for president when the trump era is over. and she comes to this with some credentials. she's been elected and re-elected governor of south carolina, she has some national security experience with her two careers years at the united nations, and she might help the republicans deal with some of their current problems with attracting women voters, for instance, or dealing with people of color. so i think she is someone who intends to stay on the national scene. >> absolutely. that definitely comes through in your interview. let's talk about some of these details. that episode between tillerson and kelly and hailey, tillerson hasn't responded in questions after the fact as far as we can see. john kelly's reaction seems to be pretty telling, declining comment -- to comment directly on the details to "the