brief the lawyers. dr. hill said that ambassador bolton referred to this deal as this is a drug deal after the july 10th meeting. ambassador bolton opposed a call between president zelensky and president trump out of concern that it would be a disaster. needless to say, the ukrainians in the meetings were confused. ambassador bolton and the regular ukraine policy-decision making channel wanted to talk about security, energy and reform. ambassador sondland participating in the irregular channel wanted to talk about the connection between a white house meeting and ukrainian investigations. also during our july 19th call, dr. hill informed me that ambassador volker had met with mr. guiliani to discuss ukraine. this caught my by surprise. the next day i asked ambassador volker about that meeting, i received no response. i began to sense that these two decision-making channels, the regular and irregular were