ukrainian prosecutors and go through those prosecutorial channels and a white house would have nothing to do with it. but the announcement part is key because it shows that this was for the political benefit of the president. he doesn't get any political benefit if some investigation goes on behind the scenes. the political benefit for him because his goal was to take joe biden out of the campaign and to seriously damage him as a candidate and the fact that he wanted a political announcement of an investigation of what he viewed as his primary political opponent shows that it was done for personal purposes, not for any institutional governmental purpose. >> another key moment when the majority counsel for the intelligence committee daniel goldman told the hearing just because president trump didn't say the words quid pro quo doesn't mean he wasn't asking for one. listen to this. >> president trump and