out of class and back at home. what do you think of this as a pediatrician? do you think it's a smart strategy? do we have the testing capability? >> well, i think it's an extra layer of support. but it's a third-tier strategy. by that, i mean if we're serious about getting kids through in-person classes, we have to have everybody in the school vaccinated, everybody masked, and certainly for the middle schools and high schools that is possible, although we've got a lot of unfortunately elected leaders who are fighting back on that. hopefully later on in this month we'll get more information about pediatric vaccines for 5 to 11-year-olds. that will be the most important thing, vaccinations and masks. i think routine testing will provide an extra layer of protection and is warranted. >> thank you, dr. hotez. good to see you. >> good to see you. a big day on the