in the uk and we've got higher rates and we're in an inflation cycle, this is not the time of all times because the consequences of even bringing to the brink of default could be much larger than they were even in 2011 and in 2011 it was highly disruptive. >> yes, it absolutely was. so it is international women's day and so much has been made about how the pandemic hit women particularly hard, women dropping out of the workforce, unable to return because of what life has presented, pay gaps widening. where does that stand? how much ground is there to make up? what do you see? >> you know, it's really an interesting question, kate, and it's really hard for me sitting here today on international women's day and seeing the lack of progress we made. the united states was once the leader in women's participation in the labor market among prime