expect? she said, first, you won't believe me if i told you, and two, it's just going to be different for you because you're a man, and she's a woman, and you're the first one. and kind of the times we're in right now. but just be yourself. be authentic, and support her. >> the term second lady was first used in the 1890s, but there wasn't much of a public role until pat nixon started traveling independent of her husband to promote causes. there are now five living former second ladies, marilyn quail, tipper gore, lynne cheney, jill biden and karen pence. >> who'd you talk to? >> i talked to mrs. pence. >> was she helpful? >> she was, she was. we had a very nice conversation. >> what was the most important advice she gave you? >> she was very helpful because having been in the residence right before, there's a lot of just, you know, it's nonintuitive things that happen living in this type of situation. >> like what? >> that she was very helpful with. >> just from paying the bills,