the issue was we stored these whales at night in a modular 20 feet across and probably 30 feet deep. as a safety precaution because we were worried about cutting the net and letting them go and no lights out. so there is no stimulation, just in a dark metal 20 foot by 30 foot pool for 2/3rds of their life. >> when we first started, they were quite small and quite young so they fit in there quite nicely, but they were immobile for the most part. >> it didn't feel good. it just didn't. and it -- it was just wrong. >> we started having difficulty getting them all into this one small steel box, to be honest. that's what it was. it was a floating steel box. >> that's where food deprivation could come in. we would hold back food and they knew if they went in the modular they would get food so if they were hungry enough they went in