they don't stand up for their appointees in the white house when they're a little controversy krallial, they throw a fine man like larry summers under the bus. >> fine man, god bless him and be with him. the problem is you have to have something that you're willing to fight for. >> i agree. >> if you've got single payer, people are willing to fight. public option, people are willing to fight, but if you've got this middle of the road position, you've got to get your troops out. >> i agree -- republicans need to give alternatives and not just be negative, but let me turn van's question around. i remember back during the campaign when mitt romney went into west philadelphia. mayor nutter protested his visit say why is this guy here? mitt romney was buyed by the naacp. is there an interest and willingness to have a dialogue with white republicans on any issue? >> sure. sure. my god, we black folk, we have