recovered from their session by now. so i don't think any of this is good economics. the only question is, is this less worst economics than going through with the sequester. >> wasn't the sequester good for you guys? wasn't the sequester good for democrats in that you got those defense cuts you wanted and you got to paint republicans as being cold-hearted, slashing those social programs. >> i don't think it was good for democrats at all. and democrats don't think it was good for the country. and we're not willing to trade even a short-term political advantage for something that's damage the country. a lot of us feel that the defense cuts are too steep too fast. they don't let it go that you more methodical way. there are still millions of people struggling to get by, still struggling to find work and stay in their homes. and all of this seems very