standards went into effect, less than 15% of schools were serving healthy school lunches. now under the new standards, 90% are, so the standards are working. why roll them back? >> we're talking about very small number of schools are having problems. most schools are -- that's not true. you're punishing 90% of the kids for a very small problem. genevieve, i have a question for you. the school lunch program serves 30 million kids most of whom are from needy families, most of whom this is their biggest meal of the day. we're spending more than $11 billion on this program. why wouldn't we want the most nutritious foods to be served to these kids? >> well, i think that we do, but i would of course ask why the obama administration who gives out a lot more money in food stamps to -- >> we're talking about the school lunch program. >> i understand. that's government sponsored and we let people -- >> do you believe -- >> no, i don't think there ought to be regulations on that.