politically expedient to you. and i challenge you and your colleagues, watching this program, we're not your enemies, these folks are as american as you. >> what do you think that i view -- >> i'm talking about the same type of rhetoric that donald trump used against president obama when he was not from this country, right? this is the same toxic -- >> this is one of the reasons this is escalating into this kind of -- >> i take the point. >> we get nowhere like this. >> when you say this is why it's escalated, yeah, with this president, he needs to undo the representation for using race against a sitting president when he knew it was bs. and by doing more of it, it doesn't help him outlive his own reputation. i appreciate the argument on both sides. thank you as always. this president shifting to the economy, says, forget about this recession talk, he puts out