understand why. what's your read on that? >> it's early. that's why. she's going to have some of the most elasticity of any candidate we see -- >> why will she have the most elasticity? >> it's already been proven. she started out when she announced her campaign very high. she came back down and settled down to 8 or 9. after the first debate she came back down to 8 or 9. she rests now in fourth place. that's not a bad place to be going into the labor day weekend. i don't think there's panic whatsoever. she's in a better position because i will tell you this -- while we're having these deboughts and they sound extremely illuminating about left, right, center, or otherwise, the people who choose the democratic nominee are african-american voters, particularly african-american female voters, period. we can talk about left, right, center, warrior, not warrior, but african-american voters will choose the nominee. i will remind people of this. in october there was a cnn