that's what people are investigating, not convicting yet but investigating. >> that's absolutely false. >> well, i'm not sure how it could be false if i cited a section of the founding fathers of the constitution but i'll finish my point because you demanded the same in return. >> you'll get the also a point. >> the idea of the whistle-blower act and why we have the protection and anonymity. you're correct in saying it is imperative for people to investigate the allegations of a whistle-blower complaint. and if the underlying substantial that's being investigated to shoot the messenger is antithetical to what we stand for. it doesn't mean the allegations alone will lead to a conviction. it does mean if you had the allegations there, don't focus on the actual messenger, focus on the investigation. >> jenna, where do you take issue? >> with bribery. here you don't have a quid pro quo or anything remotely related