get me in 2016 and i'm not going to give money to a country that does that kind of corruption. is that a good faith argument against corruption? >> i don't know but i'm not buying that because the president for a long time as has been concerned about his legitimacy, right? the notion that the russians helped him infuriates him, and so what he wants to do is try to cast a doubt about that claim and to go into the 2020 election and say, no, i won 2016 legitimately and nobody should have any doubt that i should be re-elected because my first election was -- was, you know, perfect and great and all the kinds of terms that he uses. so i'm not buying that. i think it is intended to bolster his efforts to win in 2020. >> go ahead, andrew. please. >> chris, let's be clear. there was no conspiracy theory. there was no involvement of ukraine in the meddling of the 2016 election. we know this. every intelligence agency in this country has agreed with