january 6th, and keep it away from the political arm? you'll never get a straight read. >> yeah, because this is bigger than just bringing criminal cases. the justice department can investigate cases and a justice department, properly run, only speaks with indictments it can bring. we need something larger than that. people need to be held criminally accountable and the justice department should do that. but the american people need to know more about what happened on january 6th, who might be involved even if they're not criminally liable. the justice department, through the use of grand juries, because there's grand jury secrecy, that's information they will acquire that cannot then be shared. this is something that needs to be explored and then shared with the american people. >> right. >> for now and also for history, to make sure that what happened on january the 6th doesn't happen again. >> but, you know, strange