stands next to a guy who just runs some b.s. about what the vaccine does to your body. he knows it's not true. but he says nothing. because what is his play? >> well, i see the issue similarly. i see the abortion issue and the vaccine issue in the same light, which is, and i love the way you just set it up, it's a short game. it's not a long game. you can sell this to the base. you can sell this in primary season, if you're running for the presidency. this is not a strategy for winning a general election in a presidential race. and the best i can offer you, chris, is to say that they think they'll worry about it later because in the short term, they're all toeing the exact same line. ask yourself this. why doesn't former president donald trump own the vaccine? why isn't this his issue 24/7? why isn't he the one out there