this point. but having full approval would take that argument and that arrow out of the quiver. and the second reason there are lots of workplaces and schools that have not gone to vaccine mandates because they aren't sure they can without full approval. so that would also allow for a lot more people to be vaccinated who are on the fence right now. they don't know -- they're not really opposed to getting the vaccine but they need that extra push. and that kind of mandate and full approval would do the trick. >> looking at desantesantis dow florida, he's a smart guy. he was doing the vaccine thing early on. is there advantage in playing up this don't get vaccinated movement, don't let big brother tell you what to do, the left is sneaky, fauci looks sneaky. do you think there is advantage for that on the right? >> i do. if you're asking me i think that there is, and the data i would point to is you were talking about those areas of the country