together. i'm meeting so many independents and folks who are future former republicans. they come up to me who ordinary lu vote republican. i'm not tricking they will. we disagree on things. the biggest thing is bring an end to the trump presidency. and restore decently to the white house. >> disagreement with decency was d display can you do that opposite trump? >> you can't deal with him having equal and opposite energy. you have to absorb and redirect. if you're playing his game. even when you're winning you're losing. when he lies we have to call it out. we have to confront it. >> when he bullies you. >> you have to stand up for yourself. deny him the signature quality. the ability to change the subject. i believe every election is about this question. from a voters perspective how is my life going to be different if you are president instead of