presidential debate. let's go to david axelrod first. you're a former senior adviser to president obama. what do you think -- did hillary clinton, some pundits are suggesting, did she miss an opportunity tonight to stand out given her experience as a secretary of state? >> you know, it was interesting to me, normally she's being attacked for being too political. i think in this moment she was really thinking like a person who might become president of the united states. she was very tempered in her answers because of that. it may have been in the short run not to her political benefit, but it may be to her credit in the long run that she took that posture. >> she was a member of this administrati administration, as you know. she was walking a fine line trying to distance herself to a certain degree from president obama saying that, using the line that isis cannot be contained. it must be defeated. that's a direct reference to the president. saying that isis was contained. and also pointing out that early on in syria she said we needed