experiences, sometimes multiple within one shift. it's difficult. and it takes its toll. and it doesn't help when people, you know, create this -- like i said, a stigma that, you know, reaching out for help to process those situations is a sign of weakness. you know, we're starting to address it now, and we start -- you know, we have resources available to officers. but having those resources available and having officers feel comfortable accessing them are two totally different things. >> when you -- you said it was disgraceful because after what happened on january 6th, you still had people denying it. you said that part is disgraceful. what do -- what do you want people to know about -- honestly, what is that denying