is . >> i don't think it could have been handled in a way -- we're going to go back in hindsight and look. but the idea that somehow there is a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i don't know how that happens. i don't know how that happened. >> for you that is was always priced into the decision? >> yes. >> so the president says chaos always priced into the decision. last month he called the drawdown orderly. >> the drawdown is proceeding in a secure and orderly way for our ties in the safety of our troops as they depart. that had, the jury is still out. but the likelihood there is going to be the taliban overrunning everything the whole country is highly unlikely. >> and in and out airport in kabul is the center of it all. the center of the desperation. the u.s. embassy in kabul warning it can't ensure safe passage to the airport despite the pentagon saying that the