processing 500 people an hour into the kabul airport but many of those are far from the airport who have to get to the airport. it's not clear that they can. the taliban said they would give safe passage but the proof will be in the results. >> absolutely. kirsten, if biden thought this withdrawal was going to be chaotic, he never really indicated that to the american people, quite the opposite. this is what he said, and then we'll talk. >> we'll do it responsibly, deliberately and safely. it's a rational drawdown with our allies and it's making -- so there's nothing unusual about it. the drawdown is proceeding in a secure and orderly way, prioritizing the safety of our troops as they depart. there is going to be no circumstance where you'll see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. >> so listen. he's always said that he's going to be straightforward with the