guilty. that they can prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. they need to come down on them harder because there's a deterrent that needs to happen. this january 6th commission is different, it is a commission to find out what happened, it is a broader, broader investigation. it is not a criminal case. it's not one where the commission is trying to prove somebody guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the commission is trying to get the facts, and that is important for the american people. it's a completely different situation than the trials and pleas going on. it's important that the american people know all the of the facts that happened on that day, start to finish. that's why i'm so proud of this commission for issuing the subpoenas and doing all they can to get to the bottom of this >> i get what you're saying but i'm saying the actors who did the damage, went into the capitol, even if it's on someone