there's a deterrent there that needs to happen. this january 6 commission is different. this is a commission to find out what happened. it is a broader, broader investigation. it is not a criminal case. it is not one where that commission is trying to prove somebody guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. the commission is trying to get the facts. and that is important for the american people. that's a completely different situation than the -- than the trials and the pleas that are going on. it's important that the american people know all of the facts that happen on that day, start to finish. that's why i'm so proud of this commission for issuing the subpoenas, doing all they can to get to the bottom of this. >> i think you're right on this. i nknow the difference there, bt the people who did the damage, the people that went into the capitol, even if it was on someone else's suggestion, if they're getting off scot-free, there's a certain amount of frustration going on. thank you both. >> i agree with that.