skateboard, splashing paint on a statue of george floyd in broad daylight. okay? vandalism taking place just days after the statue, the sculpture i should say, along with depictions of late congressman john lewis and breonna taylor, made their debuts in new york city's union square. so joining me now, cnn political analyst and "new york times" political reporter sted herndon. and chris karabuchi. he is the artist behind those sculptures. chris, so glad to have you on. sted, thank you. you're always on. this is the first time a george floyd artwork of yours has been vandalized. are you surprised how brazen this was, though? >> no, i'm not completely shocked. i guess i'm somewhat surprised that it occurred in daylight. but i'm not completely shocked. listen, i know that there's a diversity of opinion on george floyd. and i just think there are better ways to express oneself