some spaceship and my mama pays more tax than he does. cbs poll, 67% said, yes, we should tax rich people and corporations. >> have you seen a poll that says we want to increase the a of spending by $3.5 trillion? have you seen that? we want the government to do a lot more -- >> let me jump in here because you say all of that and we talk about all that money, but that is over, what, ten years? >> right. >> it's over ten years so, you know, it's not like all that money is going to be coming out of people's pockets within one year. listen, it is a lot of money. i'm sure they could pare it back. but when you think about the main things that are in there, we need roads. we need bridges. we also need decent broadband. we need all of those things in order to compete with other countries. so i think, listen, i understand you're right about the taxes, david. but you're also right, paul, about the administration and the democrats not doing a very good job of selling something that is