for the crime of fill in the blank? >> i didn't have time. i was still trying to get him to stop. >> those initial statements that they made to investigators, it's coming back to these defendants, right? >> yeah. absolutely. and, again, that's what gets people in trouble is they can't keep up the versions that they've told. and so when they're confronted on the stand with inconsistencies and discrepancies in prior statements, then you see what happens. and he is left basically now having said you know something? i didn't really have reason to do it. but we did it, and here we are. they herded this young man like cattle. you think about that. and into a situation where at the end of the day, mr. arbery had no choice but to try to fight to keep himself from being shot because he didn't want to be shot in the back by a guy with a shotgun. so i really think that the