anyway, it looks like they're in a car. you said there was no red flag to you because this was by zoom, right? >> right. the whole arraignment was by zoom so where they were sitting frankly wasn't something that we were necessarily watching especially given the prosecutor at that point only said she would consider charges against the parents, at that point, when the arraignment occurred and fast forward when she said she would be making a charging decision, those are all words that aren't i'm going to bring charges. you are our partners, you should go look for them in advance. there has never been a time in my career or the undersheriff, who has 44 years there, where charges have been announced at a press conference when the person is not in custody. ever. >> look, the reason i'm asking you this is because every person i think in this country especially those not in law