america, they don't threaten to up end the international system. when you have a nuclear power, the largest nuclear power in the world, russia has more nuclear weapons than the united states, a great power with a veto in the security council, when it threatens its neighbor what you are reverting to is a pattern of great power politics that is more reminiscent of the age of hitler and mussolini, more reminiscent of 19th century europe where the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. that is a very different world than we've lived in for the last 70 years and certainly ever since the end of the cold war. so it's not, i mean, to put it directly to people who think about this and they say, why are ukrainians being -- why do we pay so much attention, is it just because they're white? no, it is not because ukrainians are white or european. it's because their aggressor, their invader is a nuclear armed