their towns and a strategic aspect. these are areas outside of kyiv. the stra tegic target and goal f russians was to encircled the city of 3 million people. you don't acroccupy and hold th terrain easily. you encircle it, cut it off and hope for a surrenderer. not only is that not happening but ukrainian forces are pushing back and in some cases, we understand to some reports in some suburban areas, cutting off the russians from their own supply lines so they are doing a lot better than expected on the ground but as we've been did cus -- discussing for weeks now, they want for western countries to help them defend themselves in the skies and that is why they're saying if you're not going to give us a no fly zone, give us the weaponry to shoot them down at a high altitude.