a real financial hit for the white nationalist movement. it tells them, look, speech is protected. hate speech, even is protected under the first amendment. but violent hate speech is not. and if you cross that line into action and to violence, you can be held financially responsible. >> so pivoting to ahmaud arbery, interestingly, one of the defense attorneys for william roddy brig roddy bryant, he doubled down about comments about black pastors in the courtroom. let's listen to what he said to chris cuomo. >> chris, let me put it to you this way. if every time a police officer is killed we're going to allow the police department to stack the courtroom with uniformed police officers, i think you'd agree that that would be inappropriate. would you not? >> i don't know that it would be inappropriate, but i know it's not an analogy. having black pastors there to support the family, i don't think is going to have a chilling effect on a jury.