mccarthy got thrown out for. conservative congressmanen kevin hearne, he's a leader on the right, had this to say about the possibility of a government shutdown over this disagreement. take a look at what he had to say. >> there's elective to have a short-term shutdown, not a cr, but a shutdown so there's a real urgency to get these appropriations bills passed. >> he's basically saying we're not going to pass another temporary bill mile while we figure it out. we're going to shut it down so we get what we want. what do you hear in those comments and twha are you preparing for? >> this is a serious wrinkle in this conversation a about government funding that a number of house conservatives are okay with the government shutting down, even though nobody ever wins a shutdown. they usually lose leverage and typically speaking when the shutdown ends, you don't get any wins that you had sought out getting when you allow the