talking about i seek forgiveness. sex addicts know they're in pain and feel bad about it. i can't see him feeling bad about it. >> is this some sort of compulsive -- that word addiction is thrown around a lot, and whether or not there's sexual addiction. is this some compulsive behavior? what goes into this? >> i think it could believe an acting out, it could be a thrill seeking, power hungry acting out in itself. so we don't know whether it's narcissism, he's doing it because he feels entitled to, or whether he has an addiction. but what we're certainly seeing is he's ruining his political career, but he isn't showing any remorse. that's why i'm sort of sitting on the line. i would like to be able to call him a sex addict, because guess what? there is more chance of him recovering and their marriage