in the eight murder, they actually could not unanimously agree. that was the murder of bulger's crime partner, of the 26-year-old girlfriend, they could not agree. so there was no finding in that murder. i spoke to the grown daughter of one of the victims. she said, now, as then, she believes that whitey bulger is and will always be the killer. but she says she wishes she had not been dragged through this process. she was clearly in a lot of emotional pain, erin. >> and let me ask you, i know you had a chance to speak exclusively, deb, with one of bulger's keep mob enforcers, this guy, kevin weeks, which must have been just been a rather bizarre, but fascinating experience. what did he tell you? >> reporter: yeah, it really is. and this is a man who was as close to whitey bulger as anyone. whitey bulger considered him like a son. and i asked him, do you hate whitey bulger? and he said, "no, whitey bulger made me who i am." so those experiences added up to something, he's out of a life of crime, but listen to what he told me.