in the senate are so adamant about this is they felt like they've already given at the office. harry reid made a deal with john boehner in early september. we're going to take the lower number on the sequester number on the continuing resolution. we hate it. we don't like it. but okay, to get it done. and then the speaker couldn't get the votes. >> and the democrats said to me, the speaker can't deliver a pizza. they're very annoyed with that. >> but he's doing his best. i'm sure he didn't go into his caucus saying, don't let me do this. >> senator let me ask you a question. this has become -- i asked senator durbin about this today, the democrat from illinois, which is house republicans obviously are the ones who started this shutdown. because they said defund obama care or we won't fund the government. and that was just a nonstarter for the senate, a nonstarter for the president. >> yes, everybody knew from the beginning. >> as john boehner said in march which is why in march he said he wasn't going to pursue that strategy. >> john mccain said they never