reaching out or maybe just accidentally putting it out there, but i'm sure it was a very bizarre experience because that's how this, would. you can't really understand what they're taking because have you no frame i have reference for heroin addiction generally speaking so these people are on heroin and you don't know what's wrong but you know something's off. >> john, how did you look to you? you're saying that the word was going around he wasn't quite right. you talk about a floppy hat. how did he look physically? >> he looked pale and he looked disheveled. and he looked like he hasn't slept. as a matter of fact, i was with somebody from dreamworks who was telling me he was on the flight with him from l.a.x. at 5:30 in the morning and said he didn't look like had he slept and that he was up in the first class section pounding away opt bloody marys. i was also was people who will very normal interactions with him at the sundance festival and