i will no firsthand experience with rectal feeding but rectal probing was allowed. >> so rectal probe was standing. >> that was considered the medical approach and handling of a detainee. i was told so as to avoid the risk he may be hiding an explosive or something like that. >> jeremy, cia personnel say that this technique was effective and it got a person to talk. the report from senator feinstein says you can't prove it, you can't prove any of these methods got a single piece of information that saved american lives. and i spoke to someone involved and they say they are 100% sure that it led to the capture of osama bin laden, but can you prove it? >> erin, what you are just talking about, i have not been aware or never been aware that is an authorized interrogation technique. i think the broader point here is we have to remember the context in which this program was developed.