but nobody is sitting around saying god, i just wish joe biden would get in this race. people are concerned about hillary clinton. but in hillary clinton implodes john kerry could jump in. biden could jump in. al gore to jump in. corey booker. anybody could jump in and have just as much support in this party. i just think it is a waste of his time for him to imagine -- he is too close to and too much like hillary clinton. the rising part of our party is economic populist. therefore bernie sappeders or elizabeth warren. he is not them. i don't see the space for him in our party. he is a beloved figure but i think he hurts himself by trying to run. >> michael i want your take. but also i want to ask you about all of the reporting is suggesting that beau biden is the one who really sparked this push to get joe biden to consider -- or talk about another run. i don't thinkbyr beau is likely the driving factor?