of this activity happening. they've done a real proactive advance, which is paramount to any secret service operation. surveying those routes and mitigating all those types of threats. >> the director of the secret service overseeing the welcome of the pope arriving. that seems extremely unusual by all accounts when we were all talking about it. what does that tell you? >> i've known joseph clancy a long time. i worked for him when he was at deputy special agent in charge of the president's detail. he is an exceptional human being. the joke is they used to call him father joe because there was a rumor he wanted to be a police. i'm not surprised he chose to get out of his office and to get boots on the ground, see what's going on. joe clancy is all business. if something is going to go wrong, he is going to be there