see from the transcript, that was who the president was saying the president should go to when they had questions of all of this. the white house is essentially bracing for those public testimonies to happen starting next week, but don't forget, it's not just bill taylor going on wednesday and george kent is also going to be there and if it's the same level in detail as what we saw in the released transcript today, that is something the white house is not wanting to deal with as well as new questions that will be raised about the role that rudy giuliani has in the president's space and the rule he has and not only the state department of the shadow foreign policy as well and that is something the white house has not welcomed so far. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. i want to go to democratic congressman eric swalwell who sits on the house intelligence and judiciary committee and was in the room during the deposition. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> a damning picture of giuliani's role here. do you have definitive proof that rudy giuliani was acting at the direct behest of president trump? >> we do and it's a great