smerconish. so, michael, look, people are emotional. i understand this. but it's disturbing to see this as a political-rallying cry and that is certainly what it -- it seems to be. >> the case was really not about race. it was not about politics. to a certain extent, it was not about guns. the case really involved -- if you remember, it was abraham who with an 8 millimeter projector captured what happened when kennedy was assassinated at the plaza. you had this film, look at it sequentially, break it down in sequence decide whether he was justified in using deadly force at each step of the way. that's what the case was about. but, erin, the -- the minute that political figures weigh in on one side or the other, like lemmings, people seem to fall in line and lose sight of what the case is really about. >> right, which is really troubling and -- and as you say, it is, you know, lemmings i think is an apt word.