state-by-state level for donald trump. now, this, you know, here is giuliani and longtime trump aide stephen miller talking about their plan to replace electors. they didn't try to hide it. >> the power is given to you. in the mcpherson case in 1892, united states supreme court made clear that you can take that power back anytime you want to. anytime. you can take it back tonight. you could take it back the day before the electors go down to washington. you can take it back anytime you want. >> as we speak today, an ultimate slate of electors is going to vote and we are going to send those results up to congress. >> so, david, let me just ask you, you know, take a step back here. person walking into this for the first time. if it is a conspiracy, and it's something you don't want anyone to know because you are trying to have like a coup, you wouldn't have done it out in the open the way they did. i wouldn't think that but they did so explain. >> i mean, it's hard to explain what they were thinking.