syria feel disempowered, isis has come in. >> yes. >> let's deal with iraq for the moment. will they fight isis, reclaim the areas, and make it part of iraq? >> i -- it's hard to say, but there isn't a lot of evidence that they will. and i think, you know, if you look at, for instance, what -- if you just take the prospect of what happens next, what is the iraqi government doing militarily to push isis back, they want to go into ramadi, which is now held by isis or fallujah or mosul. what will they go in with? they'll go in with the iraqi army which is basically a collection of shiite militias. that's what it is. that's seen as an occupying army. that's not a prescription for reintegration. again, we can cobble together a bunch of sunni tribes and put them on the payroll, and that's basically what -- that helped turn the war back in 2008 when