president or i think it's a distant shot and during the general election. what is public opinion? that's what matters. what are the american people concluding? what does this really lead them to do whether they give him another four years or not? do you think i can change subjects quickly. do you think america needs another billionaire this time, a real one from new york who is worth about 20 times what donald trump is purportedly worth to save american democracy? >> it is a game-changer. i did a column a while back when howard schultz was running. i said we don't need another billionaire. bloomberg is different. this is someone who has clearly started from modest means, made his entire fortune. has given a lot of it away. is a proven leader. i think the real question is how his background -- he's a jewish billionaire. how does that play? >> pro gun control and pro gay marriage. >> yes. as they say in the uk, it's throwing the cat among the pigeons. >> in the uk you have the choice now between jeremy corbyn, a socialist, and a hard brexit boris johnson. it seems like johnson is going to win.