>> deconick re-examines a key moment in the gospel when judas receives his vision. >> master! >> the biggest problem i think in the original translation was this line here. so in the coptic here, jesus calls judas the 13th dimon. and dimon was translated in the original translation as the word "spirit." >> why do you try so hard? >> but in fact, this word means demon. >> this single word changes the whole interpretation. >> i have seen a great vision. you 13th demon. >> so the judas that i saw when i did my own reconstructive work, he's not a hero. judas is a fallen angel. he's a demon.