help you. >> reporter: so would a crisis like a fire lead the pilots to take drastic action? >> would it be crazy to think that just going into the water, trying to do a water landing of some sort -- >> i seriously doubt if anybody would try to land a jetliner in the ocean at night. without lighting. imagine hitting the water at 100, 200, 300 miles an hour. it's going to make that airplane splatter into pieces. >> isn't it surprising we haven't seen any debris anywhere? >> i think there is debris. the ocean is huge. and i simply don't think that they've found it yet. i don't know that all the ocean has been looked at yet. i kind of doubt it. my guess is, and it's strictly a guess, that they will find pieces of this airplane somewhere soon. >> shif also takes issue with the idea that the transponder was turned off deliberately. >> it stopped working perhaps because someone turned it off. or perhaps there was an electric fire or some kind of problem in that airplane that depowered the transponder along with a lot of