he helped do what i helped do. >> i was just trying to get you to react to this allegation that the president was using the power of the presidency, its most unchecked area, foreign affairs, to advance his own personal interest as opposed to the country. and you said fairly you disagree. >> i respectfully disagree and i'll tell you why. you know who else disagrees? you know who else doesn't have information of that? the people who testified yesterday. because they also don't know the president. they've never met the president. they admitted that yesterday. they were in no such calls about this. >> which is a fair point. >> it's an essential point. it's not just a fair point. >> there will be others who will testify -- >> we're not going to impeach and remove a president from office based on what he said, she said, he thought. cia does not stand for conjecture, interpretation. you want to impeach and remove the president, go for it. but you know what's going to happen after that? a lot of those 31 democrats who won in districts in 2018, that