2024. trump said the spring of january 2026. let's look at what voters think about this question. should trump's 2020 election subversion happen before the election according to the poll. 19% say no, they don't know. what do you think the likelihood, kyle, is of this happening and playing out before the election. >> likely it is one thing. i do think the judge will try to schedule it before the election. i think she is not -- she's going to laugh out of the room this idea of april of 2026. that is just five years after the events in question. it just seems impossible to imagine. but i think the special counsel wanted january of next year. that seems very ambitious but she'll lean in that direction because there is a public interest, that is what the special counsel said to get it case tried as quickly as you can. it is about in some ways in the next election, it is not about the politics but it is a crime against the election process. so let's do this as quickly as we can in a responsible way.